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S. Thomas Still

The rest of us are wondering if the choice was there to fly back to Austin on an Embraer jet with perhaps a fuel stop in Mexico City. As an avid supporter of the Brazilian jets I would hope and pray that somewhere a completed Embraer jet would be being delivered about the same time that the return trip was necessary. Perhaps some delicate inquiries and a simple agreement to tell the rest of the world of the experience could be a powerful tool to promote their aircraft. Of course Embraer is probably selling every airplane they can get off the manufacturing line and don't need the promotion but the rest of us would sure enjoy knowing what it's like to make that flight. We could compare it to a certain Boeing 737 that Southwest took delivery of a few years ago, written by another fine Flying writer. Anything to avoid 'coach'.

Ken Pruyn

Re: Pelosi -- Times do change. Back in the late 60s I commuted often twixt BOS and DCA on American's all coach BAC-111s. On one flight home the passenger across the aisle from me was Senator Edward M. Kennedy. He spent the entire trip reading "papers", not of the "news" variety, and writing furiously on his legal pad.

pkatt

This article needs to be in the Washington Post! This is like preaching to the choir.

Dennis

I feel your pain. I recently retired after 35 years as an aerospace engineer, manager and project manager for NASA and DoD. I've also been a flying reader since 1958. I was a frequent "road warrior" and often felt like I lived "in the back of the bus." Government employees have to fly coach, so I did. I got the job done, often to the detriment of my sleep. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the flying public cannot justify the extra cost of a bizjet, or they aren't allowed to do so. Given the constraints, my worst complaints were lack of legroom and getting stuck in a middle seat. On trips of about 400 miles or less it is easier to drive, so I often did. The total travel time is about the same, and I had control.

Ben Caldwell

My question would be "Is two days of your time worth the cost differential of commercial airline vs bus jet?" Obviously, you think it is. I doubt it.

Kevin

Ben - You have to consider who is flying in bizjets. For you and me, clearly the cost differential doesn't match. But when you're paying a CEO $50MM per year, that comes out to be almost $140K per day! So buying 2 days on a trip saves at best $280K (of course factor in that they'll get some work done on the plane, so say a net benefit/savings of $150K). Do 10 trips in a year and company saves $1.5M, on ONE executive! Add in more executives and the savings start piling up. Offset fuel, lease payment and pilot salaries, I'd bet you'd see bizjet flying still coming up economical.

Not to mention when bizjets aren't flying for their corporations, they are VERY often being donated out for flights with organizations like Make-a-wish, Angel Flight, etc..., doing good around world.

I think the case is strong that the cost differential is in favor of bizjets in many instances.

Doug R

As a 30 year commercial pilot and business owner I've looked at the business jet equation from all sides. There is no denying it, Business jets are the ultimate form of travel and the ultimate luxury for any business. Flying, you are missing the point as usual in your perpetual excitement over private jets. You are justifying all your numbers on a salary no one is worth; our current economy is proof of that.

Rob Mc

All of us pilots have strong sympathies with the usefulness of GA. But we need to remember that in these times, with companies trying to achieve "a black zero" on the profit side and with workers everywhere loosing their jobs, Bizjets are a huge source of social jealousy. Our company has a Gulfstream based in Germany and during these times the only sensible way to use it is like a commercial flight. If you know where it is going and you are headed in the same direction, you can make a few phonecalls and get on if there is a seat available. But you'd better be able to explain to Mr. Board Member why you really need to travel!

John K.

Something to think about....out of all of the Fortune 100 or 500 companies that operate corporate aircraft (80% +), do they own or operate these because they are successful or is a big part of their success due to the fact that they utilize this option for travel?

Yes, I'm a corp. pilot (22 years). There will always be something to be said for "known" safety, comfort and efficiency for any business traveler......the airlines will try to convince you otherwise. You cannot put a price on any of this and like Kevin pointed out above, when the math is done RIGHT, there isn't that much of a difference on a per/seat cost basis.

Greg

I'm a pilot and I aspire to have my own jet one day, even if it be a Diamond, Eclipse, Mustang, or the like. Possibly larger. Do I care what people who fly airlines think? Nope. It's my dollar, it's my choice. Every dollar of that choice goes back into an industry and economy I love and support. Pumping money into companies and industries that obviously can't manage their business properly is not something I like my tax dollars going towards. I have had the opportunity to fly coach, first class and in bizjets. I'll take the bizjet/personal aircraft over the airline anytime. Sure some trips may cost more and take a little longer (depending on the plane I'm in), but the experience of flying and being able to determine my own schedule is worth every cent. For those who complain about the cost of flying I ask you this: Since your life is finite, and the time you lose in a day cannot be reocovered, what value do you place on your time?? Is it $20 and hour? $50 an hour? If that is how you value your time, then you are deeply discounting it.

Windtee.comĀ®

Bizjets... like jetliners, are mission critical.

Those who have the resources to afford the flexibility and convenience of personal jet-transportation should fly outside the limiting constraints of the airlines. Those who cannot, will continue with airline travel.

A business person who relies heavily upon air-travel for negotiations, can avail themselves to the large selection of landing sites and arrival & departure times of jet general aviation.

toff linsmayer

As a cost conscious operator, I tell my partners (family members) how much the100LL is going to cost for the mission and the relatve depreciation, verses the time lost, but money saved by utilizing discounted airline tickets. That varys with each mission. Next week we will loose 10 hrs. of convience over an 8 day period by not flying the Baron58, However we will save over $ 1.5K. Last month we saved$200, had an extra 3 hrs to enjoy in our private lives verses the humiliation of airline abuse and for those of us who love flight, the satisfaction of another great mission!

r. Sheridan

What a load of crap. All about the writer's personal comfort, not to mention your finicky needs to be left alone while in the lap of luxury. This is exactly the article you don't want in the Washington Post, because itt's all about a spoiled person's need for a $40 million dollar jet so they can sit in captain's chairs.

Grow up. For the first 10 years of Microsoft, Bill Gates flew coach. I know. I was often on the Seattle to NY flight. Somehow, just somehow, he apparently managed to grow a company and be productive.

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