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Michael Grant

Not only are airplanes getting more complicated, all the new electronics are making them more expensive. How did we manage to get from point A to point B before the advent of electronic panels? We learned to navigate; Pilotage (remember that skill?); VOR navigation (when was the last time you tried that?); IFR (I follow roads). Okay GPS makes it a lot eaiser I will admit. And a good GPS doesn't have to cost an arm and a leg. I worked for Piper Aircraft setting up dealers and flight schools back in the late 70's and early 80's. We sold Tomahawks for $25,000, Warriors for $35,000, Turbo Lance for $100,000, the Seneca twin for $150,000. Cessna equivalent models were about the same price. Have you priced a new Cessna 172 lately, $200,000! How about a new Seneca, $1,000,000! Now there are a lot of reason for the increase in price. But how many of us want to spend $50,000 and more for a glass panel when the old steam gauges work just fine? How many of us fly IFR and need a glass panel? The industry needs to bring the cost of aircraft ownership down to reality before they price themselves out of existence. Oh yeah...back to that glass panel; when it goes dark you will need to dust off those old navigation skills to get where you are going and pray that you are not in the clouds when it happens. And if you are in the clouds...pray that you have backup steam gauges and know how to use them.

Lee

I rarely fly, anymore, merely because analog guages communicate more useful information, usually trends, thereby increasing one's awareness.
Seems as if pilots now are expected to fly computers, not aircraft; the digital age makes the experience far less intuitive and much more expensive, both of which deprive a pilot of the belief he or she is involved in the experience.

Terry Van Blaricom

Anyone who thinks that computer electronics are reliable has never had anything to do with computer electronics. The FAA is making a mistake in not requiring vacuum system instruments as a back-up. The big Garmins and Avidynes have failed more times than anyone could have imagined.

The FAA was in denial about he necessity of an telectric attitude indicator back-up (to vacuum instruments)for many years, and many pilots died because of this. A bum off the street could see the need to mandate this kind of (inexpensive) back-up for IFR operations, but the people that we pay to be smart about these things were clueless.

Clayton Shrewsbury

I see a lot of ballyho about fly by electionics...but see no real benefit. My Beech P35 has a 1984 installation of HSI and RNAV (KNS80 - stores 4 waypoints). For 25 years I have found them quite adequate for IFR navigation and approaches to minimums. If one is not competent to hand fly approaches to 200-1/2, he is foolish to fly IFR regardless of the computer power aboard.
Clayton Shrewsbury

michael Bellis

Yep-
Most of this is technology just for the sake of technology,
I fly a rental 172 with all the fancy gear and hate the gizmos.
'Course I learned to fly with steam.

Henry H

There I was, an airline pilot, all glass qualified, 777s, 767,757, 737 getting checked out to rent a local 172 (which I instructed in for a couple thousand hours 30 years ago). Checkout wasn't too bad, flare high, plop it on. Then the GPS? How do it work? Never mind, I just want to fly locally, VMC.
All checked out, another day, I rent a 172, different plane, different avionics stack. OMG, the switches. I never could figure out how to transmit and/or receive. This things was too complex. See and be seen today. End of flight, 500' AGL, I see a King Air fly over top of us, on a go-around. Oh Oh. I haven't PIC'd a small plane since.

Mark A.

1) Computers are here, better get use to it.
2) You are free to choose your aircraft and instruments.
3) Flying is expensive for the average U.S. Joe. Ever fly in England?
4) Test drive the new Honda Insight for an automotive computer experience.
5) Can you spell HAL?

(C170 owner)

Richard Magnan

I have been in the computer business for the past 37 years. Since then, the hardware has come from very unreliable to very reliable now. For example, if a disk drive fails another one takes over, thanks to the RAID system. You remove the bad one and replace it without interuptions. The software though is still scary. That is still a big problem: There are and will alsways be "bugs". When thousands of lines of code are involved, it's inevitable. No matter how thorough the software is tested, "bugs" will be missed (For example Microsoft). And these, in an aircraft, can, is and will be deadly.

Edd Skoglund

Those old rangers were good pickups except as you say, the computer. But then the always failing beast was mounted beneath the passenger's floor board where it could get but not take much stomping. You piece reminded me of guys I've known that have a few planes dismantled in the barn and can successfully reassemble them at any time and can fix most anything with a pocket full of tools that will last an eon.

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